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Kutitoff	California: Kaiser Permanente Southern California (LA)		Lead	[-]
Posts: 250 05/28/06 16:44:51	Tags : None Post comments about this program by following "Add Reply" link. ----------------------------------------------- Comments by Gary C. Bellman, MD, Residency Program Director If you were an applicant, why would you choose to train in your residency program? Relatively relaxed environment with a wide breath of clinical material and research opportunities and bright approachable attendings. What part of an application do you consider most important in ranking applicants? Letters, boards. What advice do you have for medical students hoping to match in Urology? Study hard and do well on boards, and impress your mentors.
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UMUser	only 1 reservation	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3784 02/04/07 02:39:56	- great attendings - awesome residents - great perks - your own office, you run your own clinic with as much/little attending supervision as u can handle - great operative experience - great transplant experience at ucla where all u do is operate - trauma at LAC?! omg, this is either a curse or a blessing in disguise - new hospital building opening up soon - lots of time off to read, so much that recent residents have scored >90th percentile on the in service exams - very chill during the urology years, residents quoting that they work around 60 hrs a week. even with that, their case logs are good. - kaiser politics can be a pain in the ass - you may match into a fellowship coming from this program, but the kaiser name may hurt you if u plan on getting a tenure track program - residency years count toward kaiser's 20 yr retirement plan which, if you fully vest after working there 20 yrs, you will get 60% of your base pay - uro is probably their best residency program, so u are well respected
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UMUser	Kaiser	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3784 02/04/07 06:19:47	One of the real gems of urology residency programs. Really great attendings, really great residents. Have all specialties well covered. Great lifestyle for a resident. Kaiser job guaranteed when you finish residency, and in California, Kaiser is a great job to have (benefits, pension, don't have to deal with billing). Great location in heart of LA. That pension plan is something else...you can retire when you are ~55 with 60% of your salary, how great is that. Cons: No robot, and whatever you think of the robot as far as evidence based medicine blah blah; it's here, and patients want it, so you gotta learn it. As far as academics...ok anything is possible. However, it is easier some ways than other. And let's just say that trying to go into academics through Kaiser is not the easy route. If you KNOW you are going private, this is a dream residency for you. Otherwise, would think twice about it.
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dikdoc	Re: Kaiser	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 32 11/11/07 21:04:45	Kaiser will be starting a Robotic program in January 2008. Initially they (as in Attendings and Residents) will go to a nearby hospital with a robot to do the cases. A robot purchase is certainly in the works.
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UMUser	Kaiser	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3184 10/29/08 11:08:49	The culture at KP, not necessarily the urology program, is a pain in the ass. Just about anyone can write you up for just about anything... in really passive aggressive ways. No one ever tells you to your face that they have a problem with you. Instead, you find out weeks after that someone's feelings were hurt because you weren't kissing their ass they're used to. One of my friends got written up for being "condescending" after taking time to explain to a medicine resident why dilated bowel loops does not always equal SBO, especially with a soft belly and the absence of air fluid levels and bilious emesis. Another got written up for being "short" when he said "just pull it out" when he was consulted for PEG removal. You can't win. It's so exasperating to get written up basically because someone was having a bad day. And with Kaiser's hardon for satisfaction surveys, these write ups actually matter... unlike at the university hospital where your program director would basically tell these people to go f themselves.
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dikdoc		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 32 11/11/08 14:24:39	This last post really makes me laugh. I have been short and condescending (and certainly not always right) at Kaiser and I have NEVER been "written up". Our attendings ALWAYS have our backs. The scenario you present could happen at any hospital, at any time--it has nothing to do with Kaiser. Satisfaction surveys are based on PATIENT satisfaction and have nothing to do with the hurt feelings of a medicine resident. Also, being at at a university program does not mean that your program director will just tell everyone to go "f themselves", Now, all that said, I would say that 99% of the time the Urology residents have very pleasant interactions with other residents and ancillary staff at our program. Kaiser is a fantastic environment to do your residency. We are looking forward to meeting everyone at the upcoming interviews!
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dswan222		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 03/14/09 21:52:14	Does Kaiser let students come to do away rotations?
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UMUser		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3692 03/20/09 15:31:06	yep, you can do a rotation there. either 2 or 4 wk, i think.
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